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Some words of advice

I have to admit that my jaw dropped a little when I read your response to Edn's review below, and saw you tell him to "go back to Newgrounds Piano Songs". What the hell kind of arrogant and elitist attitude is that?

In fact, Edn made some real valid points that you should integrate in your style, rather than using your style as an excuse. There's no need to be elitist about it, music "meant to surprise and change the mood of the listener" has been composed and specialized in by many people, like Ravel, Stravinsky, Bartok, Shostakovich, Scriabin. Gershwin's "Rhapsody in blue". All better than you.

What they do differently is that they manage to add surprise, mood change, suspense etc WHILST keeping the composition in motion. You break up the song for every mood change, and believe it or not, that actually decreases the surprise element.

So listening to some of your other stuff, I decided that you are a promising composer, but you - and everyone here, including myself - will only ever become excellent if they acknowledge the fact that they're just promising amateurs who still have a lot to learn.

That said, the individual bits are nice, some better than others. Bagpipes are a nice touch, though it's painfully obvious they're not real, without the note sustenance. I like the shrieking dissonance of them just before the flute part. Unfortunately that flute is out of tune which makes me cringe throughout that part, while it is actually the most ingeniously written. Shame...
Didn't care much for the legatoed string section bits, too Titanic-y, but that may be just me.

4/5 and some words I hope you consider.

droooooooooooooool

Yes! This is the kind of music I always listen to when I enchant forests!

Hell yeah, neatness, sometimes it feels a little crude on the 'entrance' of a synth, as if it starts off loud but immediately decreases its volume by half. Don't know if that was intentional, but I... noticed :)

Neat composition and luckily, not nearly as productively crammed as that Enya-crap!

Grumbleduke responds:

The synths that I used did decay a little too quickly I suppose, but any lower and they wouldn't have the "filling" I desired, as the longer notes would have decayed to nothing before the next one comes in. This is my first ambient piece, so I can only learn from the comments and wisdom of the genre-enlightened :).

Wheeeeeeeeeeel of Anorexialaibity

I wish I could post that wonderfully cheesy headbanging smiley here.
Excellent cheesily evil rawk track man - the guitar seems synthesized tho, is it?

(I kinda hope it's not)

Loved it anyway!

Grumbleduke responds:

The guitar is synthesized; pretty good imitation though I think. Cheese is the way forward!

AWESOME!!!

Whoa! Nice surprise! I love the original, and it's not that well-known, but I know it through and through, and you did an excellent job on it. Lots of detail in the transcription, and awesomely performed.
Notify me when you get the rest up!

Btw I actually found this because I was checking ZeroVoter's music reviews... the little douchebag's voted 0 on some pretty good tracks :)

5!

WuSchell responds:

thanks for the review! i've got a "minor" update there. its just some detail improvement and about 3 additional bars ^^

OMG IT'S TEH LAYMANLURV

Hey man, you seem to be submitting on sort of a regular basis again - awesome!

I'm loving the smoothness. I'm also loving the fact that you are capable of COMPOSING, rather than PUTTING SOME SHIT TOGETHER, which is sort of a rarity around here. Everything sounds thought through and thought through some more.

It's a bit Moby-esque, in the "two chords sounding good with each other can carry an entire song as long as I add and remove elements all the time" and while that does go a pretty long way, I feel the icing on the cake would've been an actual lead. The piano (sounding great and very atmospheric btw) seems to counter a melody that is not there.

That aside, the production is wonderful, the whole thing is very coherent and a joy to listen to. Synths syncopating against each other and a very groovy yet modest beat are all things that I adore.

Hope you'll swing by my page again sometime, you helped me along greatly a few months ago and you might like my new stuff...

LaymanLove responds:

yea, I've been able to squeeze in some time around work to finish up a few things. I'm not sure I thought as much as felt. I kinda just let it roll and did what felt right.

I can see the reference to moby. For some reason it makes me think of bittersweet symphony...minus the colassal greatness.

Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for the review! I'll check ya soon.

Wheeeee

Flawless mastering, that's all I'm gonna say.

Love ya.

snoballandthmonyshot responds:

i agree, sounds like a commercial release straight up u should be signed mate
hehe haha hoho
;ped

Arrr

To use your own words: cheeky as hell. Love that teasy bassline.
Really fun!

snoballandthmonyshot responds:

fun and bass mate. pucka pies yourself
Px

Good, mate.

All good, all good. Nice ambience and good choice to not use drums, that would've taken away a lot of the subtlety.

Great instrumentation again, mastering is flawless as far as I can tell.

Only thing is, it doesn't feel as "fresh" as some of your other tunes to me. Might be because I've heard a lot of your stuff, but I don't consider you an artist I'd get bored with
What I think you should do is experiment a little, mainly dynamically. You are developed far enough in your style to pull off some surprises without ruining your overall sound.

One tiny example is that the melody thingy descends the same way as the pads - you can add excitement just by choosing inversions for the chords so basically it's harder to tell what's happening.

As a background for a movie, or an interlude on a CD, this is fine, but as a song there's still some terrain to win on this one.

Btw, I'm really stuck getting a mix right on a little punky choon in Cubase and I hope you'll be able to help me. Hope you are on MSN later tonite.

4/5

pitbulljones responds:

Hey 'tang wassup.thanks for the review mate. yea i agree with you on the drums mate, i was gonna put some in but i left em out as they just didnt sit right. must bethe first time ive evcer got a positve comment on mastering, thanks mate.

Hmmm not as fresh a track, to some extent i agree with you, other ways i don't. I think your right in that i need to play with the dynamics of tracks, the one thingi don't have is knowledge of music and neither the initiative to do so. I just have an ear lol i don't even know what inversions are mate seriously.

Yea it'd score a film or something pretty well, i may come bck to this or i cud send you the project file if you have the appropiate vsti's and you could have a play at it and improve it.

yea sporry about that the other day, i was out and i had about have dozen messages from you needing help. sorry again.

Thanks for your reveiw and honest comments, its what i love about you.

pitters

Way to go.

I wouldn't call this classical, it's more of a pop tune, but anyway, nice work on your first actual song.

In the solo drum part, I can hear that it's a (premade) loop because there's a slight gap before it starts over again, if you'd add a little delay on the drums you could easily fix that.

I liked the touch with the bass, but it could've used way more of that. Due to the lack of variation in the piano (again, it's like 3 or 4 different loops, which you may or may not have made yourself) and the constant dynamics, this doesn't actually cut it as a song, it leaves me craving for some new instruments and/or different grooves.

Nice effort though, keep up the fight :)

3/5

ronweasly21 responds:

Lol, Piano Did make myself, and the drum solo wasnt a slicey Job...
Alas, Thanks for your feedback, what you saying is more depth? alrighty ho, thanks again.

ACE

Damn it, this did it. I absolutely fucking adored this. I'm gonna download it and shut up.

A highly aroused five out of five.

snoballandthmonyshot responds:

...shhhh, don't speak

There are two kinds of people: those who finish a sentence properly.

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